Hello all,
I am looking at a C-22 that is for sale in my area, soon. Is there anything specific I should be looking for when I go look at this boat?
Also, how are these for towing? I haven't found any real information on what is required to tow these boats. How heavy are they, etc. I know next to nothing about the trailer, other than it exists.
Thank you
What should I know before looking at a Chrysler 22?
Hello and welcome!
According to the manual the displacement is 3,000 lbs. What area are you in?
According to the manual the displacement is 3,000 lbs. What area are you in?
1991 Capri 26 "Mari Sol"
1976 Chrysler 22 "Evening Star"
Commodore, Lynn Creek Yacht Club
Lake Joe Pool, Grand Prairie, TX
1976 Chrysler 22 "Evening Star"
Commodore, Lynn Creek Yacht Club
Lake Joe Pool, Grand Prairie, TX
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CaptainScott
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Good morning Bobsled and welcome to the forum!
As far as towing a C22, They weigh 3K plus trailer and gear so you are looking at probably 5Klbs for towing. I have a ford Explorer and a Ford F150 that I tow with. Both have 6 cylinder motors and towing packages which includes tranny coolers.The F150 has a much longer wheel base so towing is much more comfortable with the truck than the SUV. I've towed my C22 over Snoqualmi pass without issue however the truck does not have any extra HP left and it was a slow trip.
AS far as what to look for. First thing I'd say is completeness. Does the boat have a boom, rudder, tiller handle, sails, cushions, etc etc etc. Check for all the blocks and pullys, winch handles, etc. It can get expensive to replace a list of missing items. Maybe have the seller completely rig the boat so you can see how all the parts and pieces fit!
Next is the basic structure of the boat. How solid is the deck? Any softspots in the coach top can indicate possible structure issues and should be looked at. It really depends on where and how bad soft spots are.
Check the keel, the keel cable, and keel pin and its brackets. Again, look for heavy corrosion on the keel pin brackets. That could indicate a leak or worse totally worn brackets and pin.
Lastly remember these boats are pushing 35- 40 years old. You'll likely find issues with any of these boats. Just keep that in mind while shopping. If you have an experienced friend that is familiar with sailboats in general then take them along to look for issues not listed or things you might not have thought of!
Enjoy the search!!
Scott
As far as towing a C22, They weigh 3K plus trailer and gear so you are looking at probably 5Klbs for towing. I have a ford Explorer and a Ford F150 that I tow with. Both have 6 cylinder motors and towing packages which includes tranny coolers.The F150 has a much longer wheel base so towing is much more comfortable with the truck than the SUV. I've towed my C22 over Snoqualmi pass without issue however the truck does not have any extra HP left and it was a slow trip.
AS far as what to look for. First thing I'd say is completeness. Does the boat have a boom, rudder, tiller handle, sails, cushions, etc etc etc. Check for all the blocks and pullys, winch handles, etc. It can get expensive to replace a list of missing items. Maybe have the seller completely rig the boat so you can see how all the parts and pieces fit!
Next is the basic structure of the boat. How solid is the deck? Any softspots in the coach top can indicate possible structure issues and should be looked at. It really depends on where and how bad soft spots are.
Check the keel, the keel cable, and keel pin and its brackets. Again, look for heavy corrosion on the keel pin brackets. That could indicate a leak or worse totally worn brackets and pin.
Lastly remember these boats are pushing 35- 40 years old. You'll likely find issues with any of these boats. Just keep that in mind while shopping. If you have an experienced friend that is familiar with sailboats in general then take them along to look for issues not listed or things you might not have thought of!
Enjoy the search!!
Scott
Does the displacement of 3,000 lbs mean that the actual vessel weighs 3,000 lbs? My truck only has a class II trailer hitch setup, and recommends a max towing capacity of 3,500 lbs, and if the vessel weight 3,000 lbs, plus the weight of gear, and trailer, I am afraid I couldn't tow the boat comfortably with my current vehicle. I don't want to get into having to buy a new truck to tow the sailboat. But, from the pictures, it looks like a nice boat.
I am in the Palm Beach County, FL area.
I am in the Palm Beach County, FL area.
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YEah, the 3K lb is the weight of the boat itself.
Trailers I would gues are 500-1000 lbs for a decent single axle.
Then ad the weight of the outboard, life jackets, coolers, and all the STUFF these boats tend to gather and you might be a bit heavy for your rig. Florida is very flat so you might get away with short trips to the marina and back but long hauls would be of concern for me.
Also are you stick or automatic? If automatic then a tranny cooler would be very cheap insurance and are not hard at all to install. Maybe google your rig to see what it and others like it have towed?
The boats are great boats. Built very sturdily however still sail pretty nice!
Scott
Trailers I would gues are 500-1000 lbs for a decent single axle.
Then ad the weight of the outboard, life jackets, coolers, and all the STUFF these boats tend to gather and you might be a bit heavy for your rig. Florida is very flat so you might get away with short trips to the marina and back but long hauls would be of concern for me.
Also are you stick or automatic? If automatic then a tranny cooler would be very cheap insurance and are not hard at all to install. Maybe google your rig to see what it and others like it have towed?
The boats are great boats. Built very sturdily however still sail pretty nice!
Scott
Hey Bobsled,
Welcome and don't give up the ship. I towed my 22 to North Carolina from New Jersey last summer with my Lexus RX. It is a six cylinder and the boat towed great without any problem. I had plenty of power to get up hills in Penn and W Virginia on the way home and at times I was driving about 70mph. That's probably not a great idea with any boat but the road was straight, level, and empty.
My car, boat, and I got home without any problem at all. So, towing the 22 is a possibility for you. My car has a 3500 lb recommended towing weight too and i called Lexus before the trip to be sure it would not hurt the car. They said to go ahead and tow it.
The 22 is a great boat. Nice size, easy to handle, pretty bulletproof for us
novices when we get into scrapes. If you can get a good price on it, think it over. You won't regret owning it.
Regards and welcome. Jeff
Welcome and don't give up the ship. I towed my 22 to North Carolina from New Jersey last summer with my Lexus RX. It is a six cylinder and the boat towed great without any problem. I had plenty of power to get up hills in Penn and W Virginia on the way home and at times I was driving about 70mph. That's probably not a great idea with any boat but the road was straight, level, and empty.
My car, boat, and I got home without any problem at all. So, towing the 22 is a possibility for you. My car has a 3500 lb recommended towing weight too and i called Lexus before the trip to be sure it would not hurt the car. They said to go ahead and tow it.
The 22 is a great boat. Nice size, easy to handle, pretty bulletproof for us
novices when we get into scrapes. If you can get a good price on it, think it over. You won't regret owning it.
Regards and welcome. Jeff
Welcome aboard Bobsled
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1980 C-26 #1100
S/V My Getaway
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Thanks for asking!
Would you need to tow it everytime you went sailing, or would you find a slip to leave it in for the season?
Ya these boats are solid built, but expect some work to be needed.
The masts are a bit big to be hoisting without a system in place and can take some time to put up and take down,,, so we found a slip to leave it in for the season, for us about 9 months, now we load up the Jetta and pack a cooler.
So we move the boat 50 miles of pretty flat easy and slow roadway twice a year...
Billy
Would you need to tow it everytime you went sailing, or would you find a slip to leave it in for the season?
Ya these boats are solid built, but expect some work to be needed.
The masts are a bit big to be hoisting without a system in place and can take some time to put up and take down,,, so we found a slip to leave it in for the season, for us about 9 months, now we load up the Jetta and pack a cooler.
So we move the boat 50 miles of pretty flat easy and slow roadway twice a year...
Billy