Rudder troubles. Looking for advice for repair/replacement
Rudder troubles. Looking for advice for repair/replacement
My C26 was backed into some shallow water and the rudder snapped.
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Looking for advice for repair/replacement.
Thanks in advance
Steve
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Looking for advice for repair/replacement.
Thanks in advance
Steve
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Rudder troubles
My C22 (not the parts boat) came with a solid HDPE rudder from Idasailer. It's quite the piece of work, and I think the boat would break in half before the rudder. I haven't had it in the water yet, but I'm shooting for the 15th.
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Not hollow, just full of rotten wood.
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Old rudder has 7 bolts and a fist size hole in the center. The new rudder only appears to utilize a single center bolt.
Bent one of the cheek plates. Will need to get that bent back.
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Old rudder has 7 bolts and a fist size hole in the center. The new rudder only appears to utilize a single center bolt.
Bent one of the cheek plates. Will need to get that bent back.
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Someone else had the rudder with the big "bushing". Copacetic is a '79 and has the single bolt. I wonder if this was an improvement they made shortly before closing up shop.
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1981 Endeavour 43 s/v Pearl Lee
Former 1976 Columbia Payne 9.6 s/v Gin Rhumby
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If my theory is correct the "newer" rudder will be the one with the large hole.EmergencyExit wrote:LOL, for now, I have one of each, both 79's. Actually made within few months of each other.
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1981 Endeavour 43 s/v Pearl Lee
Former 1976 Columbia Payne 9.6 s/v Gin Rhumby
Former 1979 Chrysler 26, s/v Copacetic
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http://www.svpearllee.com
1981 Endeavour 43 s/v Pearl Lee
Former 1976 Columbia Payne 9.6 s/v Gin Rhumby
Former 1979 Chrysler 26, s/v Copacetic
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Seven bolt rudder.
Steve
Here is a little post I posted back in the day when dealing with a seven bolt rudder, I did not see your photo of your broken rudder... but I feel just the section of the rudder under the cheeks has a wooden core. Just to see what they would say ask them if they could modify a new rudder to fit your seven bolt system, in the end I think its a better system than a single bolt.
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Here is a little post I posted back in the day when dealing with a seven bolt rudder, I did not see your photo of your broken rudder... but I feel just the section of the rudder under the cheeks has a wooden core. Just to see what they would say ask them if they could modify a new rudder to fit your seven bolt system, in the end I think its a better system than a single bolt.
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When I bent my cheek plates, I gave the assembly to a buddy that does auto body work. He got it almost straight. He commented, he got to use all his big hammers
As for backing up...I have started flipping my rudder around 180 when reversing. This takes the torque off the tiller from the prop wash and also allows the rudder to kick up if I back into something underwater.
As for backing up...I have started flipping my rudder around 180 when reversing. This takes the torque off the tiller from the prop wash and also allows the rudder to kick up if I back into something underwater.
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You can go to a Zen Master or you can go Sailing, either way you end up in about the same place..... a Happy Place
Good thinking! I hadn't thought of thatCapt. Bondo wrote:When I bent my cheek plates, I gave the assembly to a buddy that does auto body work. He got it almost straight. He commented, he got to use all his big hammers
As for backing up...I have started flipping my rudder around 180 when reversing. This takes the torque off the tiller from the prop wash and also allows the rudder to kick up if I back into something underwater.
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Thinking that I will go with the single hole at this point. Not sure of the condition of the bushing as I have not taken off the assembly yet and fear that I might not be able to cut out a hole that's not precise enough/sloppy.
I am wondering about how the single hole method should be installed. What bushings/washers/sleeves should be used inside and out of the cheek plates if any?
Do I simply use a SS bolt with a lock washer and call it good?
I am wondering about how the single hole method should be installed. What bushings/washers/sleeves should be used inside and out of the cheek plates if any?
Do I simply use a SS bolt with a lock washer and call it good?
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I use a SS Bolt with a Nylok nut. That way I can tighten down enough to be sure its staying on, but leave enough room for rudder to pivot freely.
I wouldn't cut a chunk out of that pretty new rudder either. Other than maybe drilling new hole and filling the extra holes left in cheeks, don't think there's other mods to make. Can't recall exactly tho..
PS You look like me in some of those pics, standing on blue carpet, greenish short pants, blue Sprerry Halyards and no socks ! Rock on !
I wouldn't cut a chunk out of that pretty new rudder either. Other than maybe drilling new hole and filling the extra holes left in cheeks, don't think there's other mods to make. Can't recall exactly tho..
PS You look like me in some of those pics, standing on blue carpet, greenish short pants, blue Sprerry Halyards and no socks ! Rock on !
So the ring with the three set screws should slide off the rudder post and drop my rudder? Seems to be quite stuck. Might need a bigger hammer.
or am I missing something?
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or am I missing something?
Image added to "Rudder" album.
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