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J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:33 pm

I was admiring Alan's pictures and wanted to ponder opinions.

What are the thoughts on raising the jib standard, or creating a "leech" line to let the bottom of the sail clear the pulpit and railing.

I'm going to borrow one of Alan's links to illustrate the standard, and if anyone has a good illustration of the latter, it would be appreciated.

All thoughts welcome, is it a performance thing or a preference thing?

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2160 ... t=outdoors

mga1951 · Post by **mga1951** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:00 pm

Hi,
Just looked at the picture. I noticed that problem and I lowered my lifelines as low as they would go on the pulpit.
Eliminated that problem. Alleviates chaffing as well

J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:32 pm

K, found it......

also on Alan's pic, this one shows the jib tailing high.

I'm thinking that Alan might be adapting to conditions.
I think this might be the best answer.

Thoughts?

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo ... ertainment

CaptainScott · Post by **CaptainScott** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:44 pm

There a couple of options if you do not like the jib on the life lines.
One is to do exactly as you describe and that is what I do. I tie the tack of the jib to a line. Feed the line to a block at the base of the forstay and the to the cleat. I can then adjust the height of my jib. I prefer it a little higher so I can see better. We sail in busy waters. The other option is to lower the life line to the base of the pulpit. This will likely require a new line.

Check photos of my old blue 1976 C22 and you will see this in the life lines. Very affective and allows for a clean flying of a much larger jib.

Scott

J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:51 pm

This may be an option, I will have to experiment alittle. My big sail is a 150 genoa, made by Ted Hood's shop, its a beaut!, I may have to consider the lifelines to accomodate this large sail.
My working jib, however I think I will adjust up and down.

Alanhod · Post by **Alanhod** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:06 pm

Banshi · Post by **Banshi** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:43 am

Mine has a 16" metal lead that I always use even though I have done away with the life lines (which are pretty useless if you ask me, to low and weak. Maybe when the grandkids come along....). Keeps the view clear and the sail and jibs sheets clear from hanging on an open hatch or bowline laying on the foredeck.

Capt. Bondo · Post by **Capt. Bondo** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:06 am

In Happy Place the life line latches are on the bow so they can be moved to the toe rail to allow for sail movement down low.
I like the adjustable height set-up Capt Scott's got going.

Windwalker · Post by **Windwalker** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:29 pm

I asked a version of this question on one of the other forums. My jib has about a 12-18" cable at the foot with a snap shackle. However, I noticed that the jib did not go all the way to the masthead. I started wondering and experimenting and tied a line to the foot of the jib so that the jib ALMOST went to the masthead (almost so I could be sure to have enough tension).

My primary reason for doing this was visibility. Sailing in a crowded lake with those boats with steel sails (motors) who ALWAYS obeyed the rules of the road (I'd laugh if it wasn't such a problem), lead me to wanting more ability to spot idiots.

I ended up with line about 28" from the pulpit to the jib foot. Not only could I see better, but Windwalker sailed better, I was able to point higher, more speed, better trim, etc.

I have come to the conclusion that my C26 is a masthead rig and over the years previous owners had changed sails or shortened the cable or whatever.

I'm curious, how many of you have reached the same conclusion?

My point to all this is to raise your foresail as high as it will go and create a tether for the foot to keep it off the deck et. al.

J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:51 pm

Wow, great stuff....

Alan, I wasn't scrutinizing your technique, however these are the little "mental" preperations I'm trying to make for my first sail.
Although I don't consider myself a novice by anymeans, I grew up in a boatyard after all, and I need to go through it all a hundred times in my head 1st.
I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

Alan, your pics are an inspiration on a cold day when the last thing I should be thinking about are hard tacks, and a wet sheetline screaming through my hands. Thanks, they're perfect.

Alanhod · Post by **Alanhod** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:04 pm

J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:33 pm

Well Alan, Novice or not it looks like you had a great season, congrats.
A video sounds great , I plan on making mine too, this coming season.
I have a little starter one I'll post the link.
Its just about bringing her home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEUm9IDeUbc

Chrysler20%26 · Post by **Chrysler20%26** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:39 pm

I do as ( Alanhod ) does only I use a rope. So that when I drop the sail, I can tye it off. Wish I lived whear water did not turn to ice. Three sail boats out of the water fou the winter.BOMMER

Alanhod · Post by **Alanhod** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:05 am

Nice video Jay!

Wow, someone has some video making skills. I like it, looking forward to the next to movie in the series.

Thanks
Alan

lecker68 · Post by **lecker68** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:15 am

I did one similar but I raised it when I made my roller furler. One of these days I am going to get a factory made furler.

J. Austin · Post by **J. Austin** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:07 am

Thanks Alan, Me too

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