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Chrysler 26 sails on a 22?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:06 pm
by CaptainScott
Do C26 sails fit a C22?
Hanked jin and slides on the main with bolt rope for the main foot?
I've been looking for C22 sails and am now just about ready to have my larger sails cut.
I am however ready for a last ditch effort to find some that will fit.
I noticed looking at the C26 specs the sails actually look like they'd fit!
Anyone try 26 sails on a 22?
Again, if I don't find used soon I wiull resort to having my larger sails cut up and that just seems to be a shame!!
Scott
Don't think so
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:32 am
by Windward
Unless you have a wildly non-standard rig, the C-22's vital stats are:
I = 27.5'
J = 8.75'
P = 23.33'
E = 7.58'
There's allegedly a tall rig that clocks out at:
I = 29'
J = 8.75'
P = 25'
E = 8'
And from Texas, weighing in at 5,000 lbs buck naked, the well-proportioned C-26 loves sailing, cookouts, cruising and being worked on, and measures out at:
I = 31.5'
J = 10'
P = 26.15'
E = 8'
So doesn't look favorable to successfully strap anything besides a C-26 storm jib or heavy wx jib / staysail to a C-22.
You'll have the most trouble finding a main, I think, since at least for the 26 the tall aspect dimensions on the Chryslers are not so common. I switched to a loose-footed main, and can think of no reason not to do so. Set up your outhaul with a 4:1 or greater purchase, be sure the clew slug is darn sturdy, and enjoy having much greater adjustment of sail depth on the lower portion of the main.
For the jib, just measure the maximum hoist (connect a long tape to the halyard, then hoist it all the way and measure to the tack pin), subtract a couple of inches for stretch, and look at some of the online used sail vendors, like
www.baconsails.com,
www.secondwindsails.com,
www.usedsails.com,
www.porpoisesailing.com or any of the others whose names now escape me.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:54 am
by CaptainScott
Wow!
That is excellent info.
The docs on chrysler lizard site lead me to believe the dimensions were much closer that than. Guess the best thing is to measure mine. Since the mast is up it will be easy to do.
Thanks for the input!
Scott
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:37 am
by Windward
I'll look around up there... if it's off, I need to get it corrected. I got the numbers I gave you using the Sailrite sailplan database, then loosely verified (within a couple of hundredths) using US Sailing's "Critical Dimensions" listing.
There's so much variation boat to boat, even for the same model, that all sailmakers recommend measuring. Again, you shouldn't have much trouble finding hank-on jibs that will work... furling jibs are scarcer, and the main will be still more of a challenge, but could always break down and get a main made.
In the unsolicited suggestions department, if you do opt for a new main, consider getting a couple of very deep reefs; the C-26, and I suspect the C-22 as well, usually goes faster and more comfortably with less sail when the breeze is up. Each of Windward's reefs takes about 4' out of the 26' luff, and helps me keep her balanced and upright in the breezy conditions I love. I even had a third reef added to her main; while it's seldom used, it makes a huge difference the few times it's needed. My Pentex main has only two, shallower, reef points, but its flatter cut and lower stretch permit me to carry more sail in higher breezes. Spendy, though.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:25 am
by CaptainScott
Thanks again for the input,
Yeah, I'm very slowly starting to lean towards a new main and a used Jib. Good thing is I'm in no hurry. So I can simply just save up the money over time.
If I get desparate enough, I can borrow the sails from "Lady Jo" just to get "Lady Di" in the water. That is a habit I do not want to get into though. Borrow a winch handle, and maybe that block, etc etc. Just is a slippery slope for me to for get what is on what boat.
I like the two deep reef suggestion. I did notice last year that "Lady Jo" did want to round up kind of early when the wind was up. Guess I should just stop the search for a main and mentally decide that buying a new one is the better option. That'll just refocus my mind on collectiing dollars instead of searching "CraizedList" all the time.
The loose footed sail option is an interesting one I had not considered also. Destiny is loose footed do to roller furl on the main. In light winds it is awesome. Pull the traveler windward and loosen the outhaul a bit! Makes for an extra quarter to half knot.
I have to be carefull though. If my wife thinks I'm racing anyone she'll not want to sail with me! LOL! I understand the "Captain" gets a bit competative and the crew does not appreciate the change in demeaner!
Scott
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:18 pm
by lecker68
Scott I checked with norm and his main and jib both need repairing. I tried
did you try atlantic sail traders?
http://www.atlanticsailtraders.com/
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:23 am
by CaptainScott
I've tried several places for used and I've already forgotten which ones! LOL! Guess I'm getting old! My desire for a used main is slowly dwindling and I'm starting to get a mind set of just buying a new main. I do, however, have to get some more classes going before I have cash flow enough to seriously shop new. The jib however is a different story. It sure likes like I have a lot more options there. Unfortuantely I called a local sail loft and they quoted over 1K for modifying my sails and over 2K for both new sails. I need to keep costs lower than that so I will continue to watch ebay and craigslist.
Thanks for looking for me!
Scott
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:26 am
by EmergencyExit
I've used Bacon Sails as mentioned by Windward, got a jib from them, and was satisfied.
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:11 pm
by lecker68
Scott check Atlantic sail traders under new & used sail Inv.
you search by type of sail also luff length then match up other dimensions
I was looking for C26 but cannot do it now. No $