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recessed lighting
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:44 pm
by NYCSAILOR
curious..... how much space , if any, is there between the cabin liner and the deck..... i was wondering whether i could run wires up there or even mount recessed cabin lighting.... let me know b-fore i do something stupid.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:41 pm
by Bhacurly
".... let me know b-fore i do something stupid."
Hee hee,, why did I think that is funny???
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:10 pm
by CaptainScott
Ha Ha!
I kind of associated the comment to myself when I read it! If I had a dollar for every mistake I made,
I still would not have enough to cover what they cost me! LOL!
I'm hoping for an answer here too. I'll not likely do it but it is intriguing!
Scott
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:26 pm
by Windward
You know, if I could tell when you were about to do something stupid, it would mean I could probably tell when I was about to do something stupid, rather than when I just DID something stupid. This could be a life changing event.
Don't recall the year on your 26, but for the 77 & 78s, give it up. The liner is really just gel coat on top of the inner skin of the cored deck. The deck itself is about 3/4" thick and has a honeycomb core of resin-impregnated something or other (looks like cardboard, but I think / hope / pray it's something a trifle more durable).
On the 77/78s all surface wiring is covered by little u-shaped wire raceway / channels. I'm pretty sure if there were a more elegant solution they'd have used it. You can get wire fore to aft inside the settees, but the vertical and lateral moves that I've seen use some variant on a raceway. Might wedge it in the huge gap between the deck liner and the hull, but that space is better used for 5200 and 1/2" oak shims.
Thank You Windward
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:01 pm
by Chrysler20%26
Thank you Windward, that is what my 1979 C-26 looks like. Resin-Impregnated Cardboard, scary but throu. As for the LED Lights, I got LED Push Lights, thay are cheep an light with AA Batteries. Keep it simple,thay work for me. I have red ones & green ones & white ones.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:26 pm
by NYCSAILOR
thanks windward.. you lead us out of the woods again..as always....( I assure you w/o this forum and this "fraternity" I would be lost....) I appreciate you saving me much time/money.
I have a '78 -- w/the early bullet or dolphin shaped foredeck...I see the ugly brown surface mounted raceways everywhere..I just assumed that was "dealer "installed I was thinking , even if it is a small space, maybe I can run the wires to low surface mounted lighting. Maybe one or two over the settees or the table...one in the space in front of the head)...also, for any one who as mounted new deck hardware... they had to go drill through that space ( if there is any, which somehow I doubt) and then compress it as they torqued down any new hardware or handrails...so I am going to conclude with you that there is nothing there...
i am looking for ways to modernize and dress up the cabin which has gotten very dated...and make it a (slightly) more stylish cruiser also, for some weird reason...my cabin is ugly beige! go figure.. how ugly is that... i thought it was just dingy white but it is actually meant to be that color... so I will have to now paint the cabin white...any ideas on the best most durable paint htat will still give me that great smooth finish w/o a spray gun
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:13 am
by EmergencyExit
I replaced all those ugly brown 70's plastic wire chases with small wood corner molding. Painted that to match the cabin liner (or stained to match the veneer) so it would disappear somewhat.
If you only paint the overhead cabin liner white, you may be surprised how far off from white the settees/etc are and how bad it makes the white look. Rather than also paint the other smoother gelcoat areas white, I made the cabin liner paint match the existing gelcoat on the settees and such.
I used a Valspar/Zinnser anti-mildew paint, so far do good - even tho after the inside got wet during Gustav I had some mildew issues on the curtains I had none on the paint. It looked white enough once I was done.
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A results pic is at:
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(Now that I've added a mirror and some other decoration to the white bulkheads it doesn't look quite so much like a whiteout in there)
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:10 am
by CaptainScott
Looks nice EE!
Great job posting the formula too!!
Scott